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    "WGTOW" are they single by choice?

    Here is a good one about women trying to go their own way, notice they are all in their late 30's. The comments are great. Or is it the spinning Hamster ?


    xhttp://www.hookingupsmart.com/2012/02/15/politics-and-feminism/the-politics-of-the-single-by-choice-movement/

    The Politics of the “Single By Choice” Movement | Hooking Up Smart
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    Who knows? Who can know?

    More importantly, who cares?

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    I wish women would go their own way. That implies men wont be supporting them or be blamed for their demise.

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    Some good comments there, don't think anyone is fooled.

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    I've been going about this all wrong! I should be taping "Girl Power Stay Single" flyers on the stall doors in women's restrooms....I'm gonna need bail money if I'm caught....

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    WGTOW but not by choice. These women are past their expiration date. They are a stale and moldy product thst no man wants to buy.
    This article is nothing more than feminist diarrhea packed with women hypocrisy. Sounds like sour grapes.

    We’re facing at least a generation where a third of college-educated women will not marry college-educated men. This, among other factors, will continue to apply significant pressure to the declining marriage rate.
    Yes, the marriage strike is working and there are less male marriage suckers.

    Single people who have strong social ties often have fewer health risks than those “greedy” married couples who isolate themselves.
    I though marriage extended your life. Now married couples are "greedy" which means they will not let these spinster around their man.

    There will be a great deal more shaming of married people in the next 20 years, as women engage in whatever cognitive dissonance (or hamsterwheeling) is necessary to find an escape from singlism and more importantly, a nagging sense of personal disappointment.
    I thought all those princesses needed to be married and now they are going to shame married couples. Sounds like sour grapes to me.

    The Single By Choice movement is described this way:

    They come in all shapes and sizes. They’re young men, who are the fastest growing percentage of those living on their own. They’re well-educated women, who are refusing to “marry down” to their less credentialed prospects. They’re gays and lesbians watching their friends in same-sex couples ensconse themselves behind white picket fences. Some have taken up their own distinguishing monikers, calling themselves quirkyalones, singulars, onelies or spinsterellas.
    They come in all shapes and sizes which means fat and fatter. Marrying down is just an excuse because no man wants them and now they are turning to lesbianism (clam divers). Spinsterellas really, it doesn't sound like WGTOW to me.

    In truth, the population most affected by these trends, and they account for nearly all of those who identify with the movement, are never-married women in their 30s and 40s. It remains to be seen whether 20-something women will get on board before they know whether they will have the opportunity to marry. When Kate Bolick asked the young women at our dinner together whether her single status at the age of 39 freaked them out, they all nodded, awkwardly but truthfully. Each one of them also stated that they planned to prioritize having a family over pursuing a career. I suspect that the up and coming generation of women views these celebrations of singleness as a cautionary tale, and they’re anxious to make sure they won’t be calling themselves onelies or quirkyalones if they can help it.
    This is the gist of this paragraph is that these old bitches are fucking losers that no man wants and the twenty-somethings are going to get married ASAP, because they don't want to end up as lonely old hags. WGTOW epic fail. Only men can go MGTOW and thrive.

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    Epic fail, this is just the Rationalization Hamster wheeling about on their wheels. There is no such thing as a WGTOW, only those that are rationalizing being rejected as a slave master.

    Below is a much better article on the idea:

    hxxp://captaincapitalism.blogspot.com/2012/02/mgtow-vs-wgtow.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ballista_GTOW View Post
    Epic fail, this is just the Rationalization Hamster wheeling about on their wheels. There is no such thing as a WGTOW, only those that are rationalizing being rejected as a slave master.

    Below is a much better article on the idea:

    hxxp://captaincapitalism.blogspot.com/2012/02/mgtow-vs-wgtow.html
    That article is gold!

    One, I don't believe it. Sorry, just don't. Normally I cite empirical data or statistics, but I have none. All I have is the totality of personal and anecdotal experience I've accumulated over the years to realize that women, especially in their 30's and 40's, AND ESPECIALLY IF THEY DON'T HAVE KIDS, become MORE desperate. Yes they'll tell themselves 30 is the new 20. And yes, they'll cite people like "Meg Ryan" or "Jennifer Aniston" who are still "hot" in their 40's. And yes, they'll read US or People magazine and watch reruns of "Tank Girl." But in the end, I don't believe women, like men in the MGTOW movement, believe it for one second. I believe it is their rationalization hamsters merely plagiarizing the MGTOW movement.

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    a man on his own can accomplish great things

    a woman on her own is a pathetic and shameful creature that is only alone because they have driven away everyone else, a woman on her own accomplishes nothing, creates nothing, and contributes nothing to anyone

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    So long as the end point of their 'choice' results in not breeding and encouraging others to emulate them, I hope these lemings continue doing so.
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    first thing to notice is that feminazi camp is using the term WGTOW ... so they must have been reading lots of mgtow stuff...
    other observation is
    "Saying WGTOW (women going their own way ) is like saying HIV virus going its own way "
    both parasites can not survive without hosts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hhb3 View Post
    In truth, the population most affected by these trends, and they account for nearly all of those who identify with the movement, are never-married women in their 30s and 40s. It remains to be seen whether 20-something women will get on board before they know whether they will have the opportunity to marry. When Kate Bolick asked the young women at our dinner together whether her single status at the age of 39 freaked them out, they all nodded, awkwardly but truthfully. Each one of them also stated that they planned to prioritize having a family over pursuing a career. I suspect that the up and coming generation of women views these celebrations of singleness as a cautionary tale, and they’re anxious to make sure they won’t be calling themselves onelies or quirkyalones if they can help it.
    This is the gist of this paragraph is that these old bitches are fucking losers that no man wants and the twenty-somethings are going to get married ASAP, because they don't want to end up as lonely old hags. WGTOW epic fail. Only men can go MGTOW and thrive.
    It's funny how screwed they are without realizing it. Who's going to want a woman who focuses on family rather than her career while she's carrying a 5-6 figure debt (which you will inherit if you get married).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ballista_GTOW View Post
    Epic fail, this is just the Rationalization Hamster wheeling about on their wheels. There is no such thing as a WGTOW, only those that are rationalizing being rejected as a slave master.

    Below is a much better article on the idea:

    Captain Capitalism: MGTOW vs WGTOW
    Ok, I read the article at Captain Capitalism, and I hated it.

    It was so brilliant it made me jealous. The guy is extremely bright, and a terrific writer. I hate people like that!!!

    All kidding aside, the guy wrote a terrific, interesting, and informative essay. Read it! (if you haven't already).

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    Again, as much as women are bragging how much they don't need men, how empowered they are, how powerful and free they are without men, why isn't the MRA movement using this obvious braggadocious rhetoric as exhibit A in why alimony should be abolished?

    Clearly women can get on fine without us, so they shouldn't be allowed to take anybody to the cleaners while claiming they need to get away with highway robbery in divorce court in order to survive.


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    both parasites can not survive without hosts."--

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    You know... I'm biased toward MGTOW, so when I first saw this WGTOW vs. MGTOW debate, my first instinct was to account for my bias and think "but how do we know we're not just telling ourselves we're different to feel better about ourselves? How do we know we're not lying to ourselves?"

    But then I read CaptainCapitalism's piece and I am now fully convinced, as he makes an excellent distinction. It is a fact that MGTOWs become such at the PEAK of their mate value. In fact, men's mating value starts growing after we start exiting our twenties and it keeps growing all the way up to our 50s.

    So most MGTOWs become such while they're on the upswing. WGTOWs however become such only when their mating value starts dropping precipitously... So it is very different. For the men it's a choice, for the women it's not a choice, they have no choice.
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    The real question here is ... how come it is "acceptable" for a woman to fuck around, pop out a dozen thug-lets, and get on the welfare dole but it is "NOT ok" for a man to stay single, take it easy, pursue his goals, and enjoy his hobbies? Women who are "single by choice" are "independent" but men who adopt a similar line of thinking are slapped with the "immature" label? Huh? Did I miss something?

    Yet another blatant, anti-male double standard exposed using simple, logical, non-PC questions.

    But anyhow, I LOL'ed when I skimmed thru that ... WGTOW? ROFL!!!

    There's no such thing as "women going their own way" and there never will be ... women are herd creatures and they are hard-wired to seek status, attention, and approval, especially from OTHER women. And, being parasites, they compete aggressively for hosts (men) ... as a result they hate and despise one another underneath all the pleasantries and formalities. Widespread WGTOW is simply not possible due to the hypergamous nature of women, the incredible social/peer pressures placed on women along with their limited shelf-life and urge to reproduce makes it very impractical and unlikely to gain any momentum.

    Also, as AlekNovy pointed out quite succinctly ... women only become "single by choice" once they have exhausted every other option, passed their expiry date, and/or failed to land a sucker ... nothing but a last ditch effort to save face. Men on the other hand are highly independent creatures, they don't really "need" anyone's approval. We are artificially programmed to be approval-seeking manginas from an early age, but as we age our experiences "undo" much of this brainwashing.

    Simply put ... men just want to fuck, we don't really care about all of that "status" bullshit that women obsess over ... the "status", "power", "money", etc is just the means to an end (pussy) ... one way or another.

    WOMEN are the ones who concern themselves with "what do other people think about me?" and "keeping up with the jones'es" ... they just can't help it, they are simply status whores ... and status whoring, comparing yourself to others, or seeking approval from others is a COMPLETE 180 of anything even remotely resembling the MGTOW philosophy.

    Nice try ladies, although you would probably be better off just keeping your legs closed in the first place!!! Would do a (w)hole lot of good ... no really, it will

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